MORRISON: How'd you feel about having a much younger brother come, Mr. SHEARS: I thought it was great. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. Either she's grabbed Zachary and taken off and she's trying to, escape, and she has a snowball's chance in hell of getting away with that. Still grieving the death of their son, the Bagbys moved to Newfoundland and fought for custody of Zachary. Right? doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. Even during his stilted summaries of events, you can sometimes hear Kuenne choking up. There was no way to stop Andrews murder, but there was no way to walk away from Zacharys body and just say hmm, okay, move on," said David. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. How do you represent the fact that when you see a crime coming from a mile away you still cant do anything to stop it? A Kate Bagby is an Advisory Member at Mothers Against Murder based in Los Altos, California. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. It's great. It was like Andrew died and then was reborn for a second chance. Instead, the film's dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagby's parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their son's body. If you were waiting to find out where exactly the comfort was in this litany of suffering, it is in Bagbys parents. Dance with the Devil is David Bagby's . decision. He said, `What do you mean?' Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. I mean, the best man is really the groom. -, "You don't just view what's happening on the screen -- you live it through every gasp and every tear, and every bit of exasperated anger(resulting) in one powerful standing ovation, the likes of which I have never seen at Hot Docs beforeDear Zachary will move you. unforgivable and that's just the way it's going to be for the rest of my life. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. Not too long ago? Kurt Kuennes 2008 documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, deserves a second look, especially in light of the recent popularity of true-crime programs like Serial and Making a Murderer., Photograph courtesy Oscilloscope Pictures / Everett. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. news about his mother and baby brother, and was slammed with instant blowback. She was deranged. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. A judge called Andrews murder a vicious crime, but did not consider Turner a risk to others. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. They are prophecies. report that concluded the child protection system failed Zachary Turner. then one day I realized what it was. They are selfless. I said, `Do not meet her in private.' Zachary, how's our baby today? They are the opposite of Shirley Jane Turner. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I understand that. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. I didn't have. -, "It's Kate and David Bagby who are the moral center of this film. He had been shot five times and the No. Kate said Shirley insisted on keeping Zachary in, the deep pool, which frustrated him because he couldn't move on his own. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. It would be kind of upsetting, I guess, to let your son spend time. I'm tired of this. I mean, she. He said, `What can happen?'. While the police investigation was still underway, Turner, a Canadian citizen, packed off to St. Johns, Newfoundland. In the end, she died, but love did not. It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. Mr. BAGBY: Without those cell phone records, they couldn't formally charge. Its heartbreaking, said Kate, who recalls last seeing Zachary the evening before he was killed. MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? I had a job I loved. Cpl. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. But he was accepted here, St. John's, Newfoundland, the easternmost point in North America. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. KATE: You get a different kind of relationship with God after this kind of. (Talking in group) This is not about money. Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. This marks the first time in history an MP from Newfoundland has been able to get a private member's bill through Parliament; since 2001, 2,510 Private Member's Bills have been introduced in the House of Commons, but only 23 - less than 1% - have received Royal Assent. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. CORNER BROOK, N.L. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Maintained by: Tracy Lane The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Mr. BAGBY: Constable Walsh asking to call him.
A True-Crime Story That Puts the Victims First | The New Yorker (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. We had negotiated a one-hour-a-week visitation in family court. The tragedy here is that even if you do see it coming, that still doesnt mean you can stop it. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I was really upset when you took him today, because I feel like I did the day you saw him at Unified Family Court. MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. Dear Zachary recently won the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Best Documentary of 2008 from the Society of Professional Journalists. Play trailer 2:39. So he came straight for me. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I'm interested in the gun. If she had her way, we would not have had any visitation at, MORRISON: Coming up, fighting not just to see their grandson, but. I, was like, `Hi, buddy.' December 15, 2009: any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. The full hour will not be available online. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. When police interviewed the hospital staff Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Well, you don't have to look far.' Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. Mr. BAGBY: (Talking in group) This is about making public exactly what, MORRISON: The Bagbys' public outrage had some results. January 15, 2008: MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) He is too happy, Kathleen. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. Kate went to the floor, and I kicked the door and--oh, we, just--just like with Andrew, there's nothing you can do. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. See details above! It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book KATE: I had a great childhood. David and Kate Bagby channeled their grief & anguish into changing some Canadian laws. put Zachary on her lap to open presents, and he resists. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. MORRISON: But Andrew did agree to meet Shirley in a nearby park. "We had to do something.. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) That you aren't trying to take my place. He says his mother was so often, unavailable, especially from the time she started medical school. I was just gone. Only Kate and David, MORRISON: Perhaps the most irksome part of the deal with Shirley.
David Bagby Obituary (2022) - Statesville, NC - Statesville Record MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. MORRISON: Andrew was the only child of software engineer David Bagby and his wife, Kate, a nurse practitioner. The Bagbys, who recently marked their 50th wedding anniversary, say it sustained them for nearly a decade as . Add a bio, trivia, and more. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. MORRISON: The girl was Heather, also an aspiring doctor. Mommy misses you. Cpl. We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. Andrew, of all people, seemed to have no enemies at all. because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. Right, right. I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. He's a little bleary eyed, but. She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew. get in there, if that's what she demanded.
Kate Bagby - Mothers Against Murder *Verified* | ZoomInfo Lying on my shoulder and looking up at me as if to say, Yes Nan, Im here.. And as tragic as this story is, that is also where its consolation lies: that Shirley Jane Turner destroyed everything around her in an attempt to extinguish the love she was incapable of experiencing herself, and in the end she couldnt. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). The pair planned to take care of the minutiae of dealing with a lost loved one, fly back to California and kill themselves. He couldve introduced his friends death any way he wanted, and he went with this, with a kid who can barely pronounce the word killed asking why one of daddys friends has ended up that way. The Bagbys could scarcely believe. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition DigiPak: The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. KATE: And so she said, `Oh, take him and get him dressed,' to me. Except this story is worse. She. Djing. ', Because I know you would be worried if we disappeared for a couple of days or, MORRISON: Was she planning something? Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them.