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Mr. Santillan holding a photo of himself with fellow Mongols members. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The A.T.F. The Mongols claimed in their motion for a new trial that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship over the years with the lead A.T.F. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. The big Mongol was the first to learn how much Jesse loved to fight, as the gear cut open a savage gash in the big man's face, eyebrow to chin. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Is Mongols Lil Dave Innocent of Allegations against him? The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. "He goes, I know you've been doing a bang-up job at the club, can't protect you from this point forward," Santillan recounted of their conversation. The club supported all kinds of law enforcement functions, (This is a known fact) and the club didnt throw on a diamond until around 2017. In their petition, the Mongols argue that Mr. Santillan could have been pressured to leak strategy and other information to the government as a result of lenient treatment the defense claimed he received during his brushes with the law. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. That was all it was about. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Was the leader of the Mongols motorcycle gang a double agent? - Los She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. Now its at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. "He was afraid, and I think he turned on his loyalty to the club to protect himself. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. Final Statement on LIL DAVE and The Mongols MC situation Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife "You're my everything, you're my ride or die, you're my everything. Live interview with Former Mongol MC Int Prez Lil Dave They are sick and tired of the gangster shit, they want to be bikers and be apart of a scene that was once true to itself (Thus the reason for pop up clubs and lack of respect for protocol and tradition). So lets talk about my response on this whole business and put it to rest The Mongols MC as a whole is an old club full of traditions and will get past this. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. The explosive allegations come after a secretly recorded video. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president was a confidential informant for the ATF. There was nothing nefarious about it.". A federal appeals court is separately considering an appeal of the conviction. Annie tells Eyewitness News that her husband was "spinning out of control" and continued to cheat on her after the phone call. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife s o she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Three years after the 2018 case, the Mongols lawyers came forward last year with claims that the groups former president, David Santillan, had been surreptitiously cooperating with a special agent from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for years and had sabotaged the defense. "I assumed it was going to be her, so we videotaped," Annie Santillan tells Eyewitness News. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, an apparently agitated Mr. Santillan said to her. Now its onto covering what the biker lifestyle is all about- Fun and riding motorcycles. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. Episode Website. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. There could be a particular concern that the defense lawyer was unwittingly receiving directions from someone aligned with the government, he said. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. Mr. Santillan has acknowledged that he talked often with Mr. Ciccone for a period of years, usually in the presence of other Mongols members. In this Oct. 21, 2008 file photo a Mongols' motorcycle gang member vest is displayed during a news conference in Los Angeles. 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David Santillan, the president of the Mongols, was ousted by the group after a video surfaced that implied he was being protected by a federal agent. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant THE REAL AMERICAN CHOLO: Mongols MC President Lil Dave on - Apple Mongols MC is a one percenter motorcycle club founded in Montebello, California on December 5, 1969. On Thursday last week, The Suit was downtown at a pre-trial hearing in the case of David Martinez, accused of killing Pomona Police Officer Shaun Diamond in November. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. I've heard out of his mouth personally a couple of years ago that they were trying to avoid any issues with any clubs and trying to stay quiet as not to bring attention to themselves because of the . agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. 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The U.S. Attorney's office asked him whether he is - or ever was - any sort of informant for the ATF or for any state or federal agency. In 2018, the club was convicted of. The president of the notorious Mongols motorcycle club promised he'd put his infidelities behind him, get sober and be a better father to their children. This wasnt the case . Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. All rights reserved. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant agent who infiltrated three biker clubs. LIL Dave Drama Continues - Lil Dave Testifies In Mongols MC Trial "This was a lifestyle, a culture, and a way of life. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. Carter went on to tell prosecutors he does not want their witnesses to use the words "to the best of my recollection.". Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. SANTA ANA, Calif. After federal prosecutors won a landmark racketeering conviction against the Mongols motorcycle club, in an attempt to put an end to the outlaw groups long record of murder, attempted murder and drug dealing, the Mongols countered with an unusual claim: Their leader, they said, had been secretly helping the government in its efforts to bring down the organization. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. The Mongols claimed that Mr. Santillan had an inappropriate working relationship with an A.T.F. agent. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . "I want Ciccone here under oath," Judge Carter told the prosecution team. Ciccone said whenever he worked a Mongols event and there was the potential for problems or violence, he would go to Santillan because he's the president of the Mongols and can convey the message to his members. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. Judge Carter also pressed Annie Santillan on why she specifically called her husband a confidential informant and "a rat" if she was just trying to hurt him. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. He said they discussed matters such as public safety when the Mongols or other clubs were planning parties or motorcycle rallies to ensure that members stayed in line and that rival groups kept their distance. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. He explained: We wanted them to know we were there monitoring.. The A.T.F. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. She later recanted the assertion. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. U.S. News Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant Evelyn Blackwell June 5, 2022 7 minutes read For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Eyewitness News asked Santillan what he meant in the video about ATF agent Ciccone "protecting him." Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. You can now listen to full episodes of the podcast right from the app. Interview with Former International President LIL Dave from the Mongols During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. Federal prosecutors have been focusing on the Mongols logo since 2008. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader LIL DAVE Was an Informant For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. Ms. Santillan said that she now felt horrible about disclosing the communications and that her husband was not, in fact, an informant. A petition for a new trial and reversal of the half-million-dollar fine, which is scheduled for an initial hearing on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Calif., claims that Mr. Santillan, 52, covertly cooperated for years with a special agent from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? He tells his side of the story in the ongoing drama to clear his name. If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. Ethan Tate, Meghann M. Cuniff and Lauren Herstik contributed reporting. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. In my opinion, the only reason the government brought this RICO case was to take another run at the patch, having failed each time in the past, said George L. Steele, a lawyer for the Mongols who is handling a separate appeal in the case. In court testimony and in an earlier interview, Ms. Santillan said she had shared the video and the text with the Mongols in an attempt to destroy her husband but had since regretted it; she said she was not being truthful when she claimed he had been an informant. However, Annie testified this week, saying she only did it to get back at her husband for cheating. "Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. In the video, Ms. Santillan was talking to her husband on speakerphone when he told her that Mr. Ciccone was retiring. A supervisory special agent with the A.T.F. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. The unusual legal imbroglio provides a rare glimpse into the hidden and volatile politics of the outlaw motorcycle club and the degree to which law enforcement and its targets may engage in limited cooperation when it is seen as mutually beneficial. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. "It grew to become clear that Dave had betrayed the membership, his oath and all the pieces we maintain sacred," the membership stated in an announcement. The indictment did not target any individuals but alleged that the club itself had engaged in an organized conspiracy of crimes such as murder, attempted murder and drug dealing. John looked out not just for me but the club, Mr. Santillan said. "The relationship was just cordial, respectful relationship just to keep the peace between us and the club," Santillan said. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Mongols Motorcycle Club Says Its Leader Was an Informant lil dave - Insane Throttle Biker News Mongols motorcycle club says its ex-president was a government 'rat' And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. Lil Dave is the former International President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. Representatives from several local law enforcement departments also said they had no such records. "He's retiring, he's retiring. It wasnt the entire Mongols Nation that threw him under the bus but a few that fed creators who thought these people were representing the clubs voice. The Mongols are relying on an explosive video shared by Mr. Santillans wife, Annie Santillan, who, during a stretch when she was angry with her husband over his infidelity, had her daughter record a conversation in which he appeared to refer to protection he had received from the A.T.F. David Santillan tells Eyewitness News that he was in a "really bad place" when the video was recorded and that he's never been disloyal to the Mongols. Anyone can read what you share. agent, but they failed to persuade a judge to grant a new trial on the racketeering and conspiracy convictions against the club. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. The birth of modern-day Mongols came in 1969 in Montebello and the club's website pulls no punches about its beginnings as well as its vision. Mongol: The Trial of David Martinez The Complete Ten-Part Series Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York Times. Santillan says he ran into Ciccone when he went to pick up some Mongols property that had been released after the trial. It became clear that Dave had betrayed the club, his oath and everything we hold sacred, the club said in a statement. #MONGOLSMC #MONGOLS #LILDAVEFor more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had. Club attorneys are seeking a new trial, alleging that former Mongols President David Santillan was secretly a government "rat" who served as a confidential informant for a then-agent with the . The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo.